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Share Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailHere's why Rosenberg Research founder is still expecting a recession this yearDavid Rosenberg, Rosenberg Research founder and president, joins 'Money Movers' to discuss why he is sticking with his recession call, what's been surprising on the growth side of the economy, and more.
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Just because the current valuation backdrop isn't as extreme as 1999-2000, we are still in a market bubble, and valuations are even more stretched today than they were at the market peaks in 2007, 1990, and 1980." Rosenberg ResearchSecond, the S&P 500 is outperforming the HYG/TLT Ratio. AdvertisementRosenberg ResearchAnd third, even tech stocks, which have been overwhelmingly supporting the S&P 500, appear to be running out of gas, Rosenberg said. The same goes for Paul Dietrich, the chief strategist at B. Riley Wealth, who says the S&P 500 could fall 49% when the current bubble pops. The bull market has thrown egg onto their faces again and again: since the October 2022 lows, the S&P 500 is up a whopping 42%.
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Eight economists, investment chiefs, and strategists that Business Insider recently spoke to credited healthier-than-anticipated consumer balance sheets and spending for the continued expansion. "Either that, or they're going to be maxed out — they can't get any more money. They're not going to have any liquidity to be able to continue to do the things they're going to do." He's also sticking with defensive stocks as consumer spending softens, including those in the consumer staples sector like Clorox (CLX) and Procter & Gamble (PG). Real estate is a "hated asset class" that's negatively correlated with interest rates, Sekera said.
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Here are six recent bubble warnings from experts this week:Advertisement1. "We are nonetheless in a market bubble." Paul Dietrich"The Stock Market Bubble Is About to Burst — Look Out!" AdvertisementGrantham also suggested the AI craze would end and bring the stock market down with it. Michael GayedGayed flagged the recent surge in gold, utility stocks, and long-term Treasury bonds as evidence of mounting market jitters in an InvestorPlace op-ed this week.
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A US soft landing looks likely, but rising unemployment is cause for worry, Paul Krugman wrote in The New York Times. AdvertisementThe US economy is comfortably in soft landing territory, but Paul Krugman says it isn't altogether clear that it will stay that way. February's jobs report triggered these concerns, as the unemployment rate unexpectedly rose to 3.9% from 3.7%. Krugman notes that on other fronts, however, soft landing advocates have a stronger case. While consumer price index inflation data has outpaced expectations two months in a row now, these recent reports are not completely in line with reality, Krugman wrote.
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That's because aggressive Fed rate hikes haven't been fully felt across the economy. AdvertisementA wave of layoffs could be coming as companies deal with the reality of higher interest rates, economists say. The peak unemployment rate during the Great Recession was 10% in 2009. Following revisions to the prior two months' figures, the unemployment rate also rose to 3.9% in February, its highest level in two years. The unemployment rate is a classic lagging indicator."
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The US economy won't dodge a hard landing recession, according to Stephanie Pomboy. That could be followed by a "double-dip" profit recession as corporate earnings take a hit. download the app Email address Sign up By clicking “Sign Up”, you accept our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy . AdvertisementThe US economy can't avoid a hard-landing recession, according to one top economist. She warned in a recent interview of a coming "double-dip" profit recession for US companies, which could cause earnings to nosedive and spark big problems for the economy.
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In today's big story, Fed Chair Jerome Powell's rate-cut decision could impact the upcoming presidential election . The decision, which has massive economic implications, is now butting up against another monumental event: a US presidential election. AdvertisementThe collision course puts an incredible amount of power in Fed chair Jerome Powell's hands , Business Insider's Emily Stewart writes. The two Wall Street titans are no longer expecting a recession , with inflation cooling and the job market holding steady. Recent graduates are adjusting their career expectations amid signs that the job market is starting to weaken, according to labor experts.
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Jamie Dimon and Ray Dalio told WSJ that the US economy's performance has surprised them. AdvertisementChase CEO Jamie Dimon and billionaire hedge-fund founder Ray Dalio appear to be hedging on their doom-and-gloom predictions for the US economy after warning for some time that a recession was imminent. In September 2022, Dalio told MarketWatch that, as stocks and bonds suffer, the US will likely slide into a recession in 2023 or 2024. Advertisement"I was bearish on the economy," Dalio told The Wall Street Journal. Dimon told the newspaper that he "would have thought some of the fiscal stimulus would have worn off by now."
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An unexpected rise in the unemployment rate suggests a surprise recession could hit the US economy, according to David Rosenberg. The unemployment rate is now 0.5 percentage points above its cycle low to 3.9%, which Rosenberg says is a worrying sign. Rosenberg's concern stems from the February jobs report, which showed the unemployment rate unexpectedly rise to 3.9% from 3.7%. AdvertisementBut the Sahm Rule isn't triggered until the three-month moving average of the national unemployment rate is 0.5 percentage points or more above its low over the past year, not the absolute unemployment rate. But the rise in the unemployment rate is not the only factor concerning Rosenberg.
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download the appSign up to get the inside scoop on today’s biggest stories in markets, tech, and business — delivered daily. Read previewAs the artificial intelligence-powered stock market rally pushes on, proponents of the technology have posited that it could help ward off a recession that forecasters are calling for. According to David Rosenberg, economist and president of Rosenberg Research, don't get your hopes up. AI won't change the trajectory of the business cycle enough to prevent a downturn. The stock market is not the economy," Rosenberg added.
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download the appSign up to get the inside scoop on today’s biggest stories in markets, tech, and business — delivered daily. In today's big story, we're looking at how Google has gone from the tech industry's vanguard of cool to just another boring company . AdvertisementGoogle has long stayed atop Silicon Valley's volatile popularity contest — but the best place to work in tech is starting to feel like any other business , Business Insider's Hugh Langley and Lara O'Reilly write. Bureaucracy, an aversion to risk, and deference to Wall Street over employees — things Google long eschewed — have become the norm. The latest example is the debacle surrounding Gemini — its flashy new AI model that faced backlash for being too "woke."
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Read previewAmerican consumers have staved off a recession by relentlessly spending despite soaring inflation, surging interest rates, multi-industry turmoil, and wider economic jitters. AdvertisementBurry predicted that dwindling savings and ballooning debts would choke consumer spending, eroding corporate earnings and sparking a wider recession. That's going to lead to a retrenchment in consumer spending as we get into the new year." That "brings us just a little closer to the consumer recession that nobody believes is going to happen," he added. "With those sources of funding largely exhausted, consumer spending will no doubt grow more slowly than after-tax incomes in future years."
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Top economist David Rosenberg says that's not necessarily true. In a recent research note, he listed five indicators that challenge the narrative that the economy is booming. But top economist David Rosenberg says not so fast. The Rosenberg Research president says that while many people are touting strong GDP, job-market, and consumer-spending data, red flags remain. This story is available exclusively to Business Insider subscribers.
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download the appSign up to get the inside scoop on today’s biggest stories in markets, tech, and business — delivered daily. Disco is backOthers have also started to compare today's market and the 1970s' "Nifty Fifty." AdvertisementJPMorgan's Chief Global Strategist Marko Kolanovic also said in a note on Wednesday that fiscal spending and inflation could resemble the 1970s landscape. Similar to the 1970s, there are currently 3 active geopolitical conflict zones – eastern Europe, Middle East, and South China Sea," Kolanovic said. Kolanovic included in his note the chart below, which shows the correlation between inflation and the performance of the S&P 500.
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The Leading Economic Index fell for the 22nd consecutive month in January. This story is available exclusively to Business Insider subscribers. The Leading Economic Index brings all of those together to gauge the future state of the economy across multiple dimensions, from growth and unemployment to consumer demand and homebuilding. Here's a screenshot showing the index's historic decline, from The Conference Board's latest release:AdvertisementThe Leading Economic Index has consistently declined ahead of previous recessions. There's no guarantee these four market veterans are right about the Leading Economic Index.
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The Conference Board's Leading Economic Index fell to its lowest level since April 2020. It marks the first time since July 2022 that the gauge is not signaling a recession ahead. The Conference Board's Leading Economic Index– a gauge of future economic activity — dropped 0.4% to 102.7 in January, signaling the lowest level since April 2020 when the US economy was struck by the COVID-19 pandemic-spurred lockdowns. "The U.S. LEI fell further in January, as weekly hours worked in manufacturing continued to decline and the yield spread remained negative," the Conference Board's Justyna Zabinska-La Monica said on Tuesday. As a result, the leading index currently does not signal recession ahead."
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Housing starts collapsed 14.8% month-over-month in January to a five-month low, according to Census Bureau data released Friday. The decline in new construction flies against the trends of strong and rising demand throughout 2023 and into this year. It also marks a reversal from a period of rising supply seen recently, with new housing starts jumping 14.8% last November. David Rosenberg, economist and president of Rosenberg Research, said in a note that it's hard to determine how much seasonal factors like inclement weather played a part in sending construction starts tumbling last month. Rosenberg added that a strong pipeline of multifamily construction will continue to impact the market for the foreseeable future.
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NEW LOOK Sign up to get the inside scoop on today’s biggest stories in markets, tech, and business — delivered daily. download the app Email address Sign up By clicking “Sign Up”, you accept our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy . In today’s big story, we’re looking at why the recent resurgence of Vladimir Putin and Russia comes at an inopportune time for the markets. The big storyPutin's big weekRebecca Zisser/Business InsiderVladimir Putin hasn't notched many personal wins since Russia's invasion of Ukraine, but last week was an exception. Putin’s successes further complicate a geopolitical situation that has silently loomed over a US economy trying to tiptoe past a recession.
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There's an 85% chance the US economy will enter a recession in 2024, according to economist David Rosenberg. Rosenberg highlighted a relatively new economic model that has proven to be more timely than the yield curve indicator. "Our conviction that the recession has been delayed but not derailed is still running at a high level," Rosenberg said. AdvertisementA recession is likely to hit the US economy in 2024, according to a new economic model highlighted by economist David Rosenberg. Advertisement"Our conviction that the recession has been delayed but not derailed is still running at a high level," Rosenberg said.
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download the appSign up to get the inside scoop on today’s biggest stories in markets, tech, and business — delivered daily. Read previewFrom Michael Burry's "Big Short" against the housing market to Warren Buffett's warnings during the dot-com bubble, some of the biggest names in finance have taken contrarian stances that paid off. Legendary forecaster Gary Shilling is also defying market consensus by warning the S&P 500 could crash 30%, and predicting a recession will strike this year. He told Business Insider in an interview he actively seeks to disagree with Wall Street for several reasons. This story is available exclusively to Business Insider subscribers.
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In today's big story, we're looking at the big business of the Super Bowl, from advertisers to the ultraweal thy . Developing and filming a Super Bowl ad typically runs 50% to 60% more than a regular one. AdvertisementFor some first-time Super Bowl advertisers, the commercial is a jumping-off point for a bigger campaign, writes BI’s Lauren Johnson. The Super Bowl is also a calendar staple for the ultrawealthy, writes BI’s Madeline Berg. A record 68 million Americans are projected to bet $23.1 billion on the Super Bowl, according to the American Gaming Association.
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The US has a "super-duper" credit bubble on its hands as "YOLO spenders" take on massive debt, David Rosenberg said. US household savings are quite low at 3.7%, while consumer spending bulged by $208 billion last quarter, financed with debt. "As far as consumer credit is concerned, the default cycle isn't merely looming. AdvertisementToday's consumers — or rather, "YOLO spenders" — have taken on a massive amount of debt, top economist David Rosenberg said. "There is no acknowledgment today that, yet again, we have a super-duper credit bubble on our hands," he wrote in a note on Thursday.
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The Supreme Court should not take the bait. The Supreme Court heard oral arguments on that issue on Thursday.) The Supreme Court should decline the invitation and instead allow the trial to proceed. The only clear path to increase the likelihood of a trial before November would be for the Supreme Court to deny Trump’s stay request. There is nothing for the US Supreme Court to add to the issue.
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A wave of retiring Boomers means the generation will soon be at "peak burden" to the economy. It's the Baby Boomers, who are aging fast and approaching their "peak burden" years in regard to their drag on the economy and the resources of younger generations. Advertisement"The peak burden is [when] all the baby boomers have hit retirement," Millar told Business Insider. And it isn't the case that Baby Boomers will derail economic growth nearly as much as, say, a full-blown recession, according to Dean Baker, an economist who described the Baby Boomers as a "time bomb" in a 1998 paper. In 2022, empty-nester baby boomers owned 28% of large homes in the US, a Redfin analysis found, double the share of millennial families.
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