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What's more, he said he hasn't typically worked more than 50 hours a week across his two jobs. AdvertisementPhil is among the Americans who have secretly worked multiple remote jobs to boost their incomes and job security. While some companies may be OK with their workers taking on a second job, doing this without approval could have negative repercussions. "Anything up to 50 hours a week is sustainable for me and that is what I would suggest for most people." AdvertisementAre you working multiple remote jobs at the same time and willing to provide details about your pay and schedule?
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But by the time Adrian's contract for his second job came to an end in March, a big part of him was relieved, he said. While some companies may be OK with their workers having a second job, doing so without approval could have negative repercussions. AdvertisementAdrian said that before taking on a second job, one should be "very comfortable" with one's main role. While he wouldn't rule out pursuing a second job again someday, he said the workload would have to be quite low. AdvertisementAre you working multiple remote jobs at the same time and willing to provide details about your pay and schedule?
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The 33-year-old financial advisor, who's based in Santa Monica, California, made roughly $130,000 last year, according to a document viewed by Business Insider. This story is available exclusively to Business Insider subscribers. To feel "rich," Stroup estimated that he'd need an annual income of about $400,000 to $500,000 a year — more than triple his 2023 earnings. In January, Business Insider estimated that it would cost parents about $26,000 to care for a small child in 2024. AdvertisementWith all these expenses to consider, it might make sense for Stroup to move somewhere with lower housing costs.
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Read previewWhen Madelyn Driver and her husband began house-hunting, they thought they had a few advantages. The 30-year-old makes over $100,000 working in the tech industry, according to a document viewed by BI — and she said her husband also has a six-figure income. Driver is among a group of Americans with six-figure incomes who are having trouble meeting some of their financial goals. Related storiesOf course, for the majority of Americans who don't have a six-figure income — the average annual full-time salary was about $84,000 as of March — affording a home is even more of a challenge. Driver said their ideal location would have a highly educated population, diversity, plenty of green space, and milder weather than the Northeast.
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New college graduates are having a harder time finding work, and as a result, some of them could see their careers and earnings take a hit for years. Meaning that recent college graduates have been more likely to be unemployed than the broader population. This new normal has worked out OK for some Americans, but it's been particularly tough on new college graduates. While the tough job market could temporarily hurt some young graduates' earnings, there's reason to be optimistic that their finances could eventually recover. But if the job market continues to prove frustrating, some of them may begin to wonder.
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Yet, we hardly feel rich." Americans say they'd need to earn $233,000 a year to feel financially secure and $483,000 to feel rich, according to a Bankrate survey conducted in June 2023. For Driver, getting rich isn't only about boosting one's income — it's about reducing one's expenses. To feel "rich," he guessed that he'd need an annual income of about $400,000 to $500,000 a year — more than triple his 2023 earnings. A high income can come with "lifestyle inflation"It's not just high-earning Americans who say they feel far from rich.
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The business is headquartered in Barcelona and has 10 full-time, fully remote employees, in addition to over 200 contractors worldwide. In January, I caught one of them secretly working a second full-time remote job. AdvertisementWhen this employee started refusing certain shifts he usually worked, I became suspicious. I believe he was working for the other company full-time because soon after I fired him, he updated his LinkedIn profile to reflect that he was working full-time at the other company. AdvertisementAre you working multiple remote jobs at the same time and willing to provide details about your pay and schedule?
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Gerstbacher, a 50-year-old based in San Francisco, was "really unhappy" at work, he told Business Insider via email. First, he's an "older dad," and he wanted to maximize the time he could spend with his three-year-old son. "I felt that I should take the quality time now since I'll be 70 when my son graduates from high school," he said. However, the decline in working men is also due to some positive developments, like the growth of women in the workforce. AdvertisementEven though he's in the process of returning to the workforce, Gerstbacher said he's continued to prioritize spending time with his son.
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For 18 months between 2020 and the end of 2021, Lisa secretly worked one fully remote job and a second hybrid job. When pandemic conditions eased, she thought her fully remote employer would pivot to a hybrid work schedule — and managing two hybrid jobs seemed impossible. Advertisement"It was a good career move at a time when I thought that remote work was going to disappear," she said. Lisa said she'd consider job juggling again if she could find two fully remote jobs that checked most of her boxes. AdvertisementAre you working multiple remote jobs at the same time and willing to provide details about your pay and schedule?
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But after being a stay-at-home dad for over a decade, Dan and his wife got divorced a few years ago. AdvertisementSo after nearly 20 years out of the workforce, Dan has started to dip his toe into the job market. "When I review job sites, I'm underqualified for jobs that I used to do, and I most likely present as too old for entry-level positions," he said. "I'm resigned to ultimately taking an entry-level job if they'll have me." Dan said he'd been advised to pursue an entry-level job at Home Depot or Costco, in part so he could receive health benefits.
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Read previewWhen Joshua first earned a $100,000 salary about five years ago, it didn't impact his lifestyle much. "I wasn't able to splurge or to afford luxurious things," the 30-year-old fintech professional, who's based in Georgia, told Business Insider via email. This story is available exclusively to Business Insider subscribers. Business Insider asked three people who've made over $100,000 a year how becoming a six-figure-earner did — and didn't — change their lives and relationships. For many of these people, a $100,000 salary could, in fact, be life-changing.
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One screenshot from a Lyft driver based in Arizona showed a $2.62 ride that took 15 minutes and traveled 4.32 miles. For some drivers, these sub-$3 trips are a symbol of their broader frustrations with their pay. AdvertisementCompared to January 2023, sub-$3 trips — excluding tips — have become more common for DoorDash, Grubhub, and Uber Eats drivers and less common for Uber and Lyft drivers, per Gridwise. Otherwise, the pay would likely increase if drivers rejected these rides since drivers would be more likely to accept a higher-paying ride. AdvertisementMoises Diaz, a 41-year-old Uber and Lyft driver in California, started driving part-time in December.
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It was fortunate timing for Charles, as the pandemic had forced many companies to pivot to remote work. "So I'm either going to stay productive by finding other remote work or just wasting time and leaving money on the table. It's left him clinging to his two remaining remote jobs, which have allowed him to not only bring in extra income — but avoid the dreaded work commute. Hiring slowdowns in industries like tech — where remote work and overemployment are more common — and shifts to hybrid working arrangements have both played a role in this decline. Are you working multiple remote jobs at the same time and willing to provide details about your pay and schedule?
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Why Americans might be getting worried about the job marketIn some ways, Americans' growing pessimism in the job market is perplexing. That's because the job market has become more challenging than it was a couple of years ago, when the Great Resignation was at its peak. So, it's possible that some Americans in certain industries are facing a job market where openings are far from abundant. For example, there's some evidence that the job market for high-wage roles has cooled over the past year. Julia Pollak, the chief economist at ZipRecruiter, told Business Insider earlier this month after April's labor market figures were released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics that it is "no longer a white-hot labor market" or a job "candidate's market in every industry where workers can get whatever they want."
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In the 12 months since his layoff, Martins said he's been actively looking and applying for jobs but hasn't had much luck. In recent years, the rise of remote work and historically high job openings have helped more people with health issues find employment. But remote jobs aren't as common as they used to be — and there's competition to land one. AdvertisementThe share of US remote job postings on LinkedIn fell from over 20% in April 2022 to about 10% in December 2023. But without a job, he's had to deal with some financial stresses.
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Martins said that in the 12 months since his layoff, he'd been actively looking and applying for jobs but hadn't had much luck. In recent years, the rise of remote work and historically high job openings have helped more people with health issues find employment. But remote jobs aren't as common as they used to be — and there's competition to land one. AdvertisementThe share of US remote job postings on LinkedIn fell from more than 20% in April 2022 to about 10% in December 2023. AdvertisementIn part because of his upcoming move, Martins said, he'd focused his job search on remote roles.
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As of the most recent March data, the average reservation wage for Americans with a college degree rose to a survey-high of $99,081, up from $97,270 in March 2023 and $81,758 in March 2020. It means that not as many Americans are landing new jobs that pay in the six-figure range. The average reservation wage for people without a degree was $68,390, up from $59,683 in March 2023 and $48,778 in March 2020. The average reservation wage among all respondents was $81,822, up from $75,811 and $61,377 in March 2020. AdvertisementAre you struggling to find a six-figure job?
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Read previewBecky Martin and her husband, Craig Schmidt, recently set a record as a couple: They've lived in the same place for nearly five years. In the roughly 25 years they've been together, they've moved 15 different times across Canada and Taiwan, Martin, 45, told Business Insider via email. An old college roommate of Martin's had moved to Taiwan and recommended she do the same to take advantage of the country's lower cost-of-living. Several moves and over two decades later, Martin said relocating so often took a significant toll on their finances. Moving to Taiwan was great for their finances — but came with downsidesMoving to Taiwan helped the couple pay off debt, but being far from Canada came with some challenges.
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A millennial quit his job in 2015 to pursue a college degree because his career growth had stalled. AdvertisementIn 2015, at age 34, Dan Colflesh decided to quit his job in the customer service industry and pursue a college degree. AdvertisementColflesh said he's been looking for work over the last few years and applied to more than 100 jobs. Colflesh has a few other theories for why his job search has been difficult. AdvertisementAre you a man who's not looking for work or has struggled to find a job?
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A Florida-based Gen Xer made over $300,000 in 2023 secretly working multiple remote tech jobs. AdvertisementIn 2021, Robert was making roughly $180,000 a year from his tech job, but when his workflow slowed, he feared a layoff may be coming soon. AdvertisementThe Gen Xer, a Florida resident, is among the "overemployed" Americans who are secretly working multiple remote jobs to boost their incomes. Aside from family and travel, Robert said he spends most of his money on food and his home. Are you working multiple remote jobs at the same time and willing to provide details about your pay and schedule?
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Gig work, in particular ride-hailing for companies like Uber and Lyft, is getting more popular. AdvertisementMore and more Americans are taking up gig work for companies like Uber and Lyft — in part because some have fewer options to land high-paying jobs. Additionally, BofA found that people with ride-hailing income earned, on average, more a month than those who did delivery gig work. Vacation rental was the highest-earning gig BofA measured, but this is only accessible to people with a home to rent out. While some young people could value the supplementary income gig work can provide — particularly if they're struggling to pay the bills — others may end up disappointed.
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Read previewGeorge, a full-time Uber driver in Cleveland, was once quite satisfied with his ride-hailing gig. The 40-year-old, who has been driving for Uber since 2017, is considering quitting and becoming a truck driver, he previously told Business Insider via email. This story is available exclusively to Business Insider subscribers. George is one of several Uber and Lyft drivers who have told Business Insider their gigs are less profitable than they were a few years ago. AdvertisementMany ride-hailing drivers are actively tracking their income and expenses to make sure driving is worth their time.
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A California-based Gen Xer began secretly working two remote tech jobs in 2020. He made over $1 million in 2022, which allowed him to travel and send his kids to private school. In 2022, Dave earned over $1 million across his two remote jobs, including sales commissions, according to documents viewed by Business Insider. Last, he said people shouldn't feel bad about secretly working multiple jobs. AdvertisementAre you working multiple remote jobs at the same time and willing to provide details about your pay and schedule?
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A millennial in California is secretly working a second remote job so he can afford weight-loss drugs. AdvertisementLast August, George decided he wanted to try to work a second remote job — and not tell his employers he was job juggling. He was able to afford Mounjaro and said he's dropped 45 pounds — from 220 lbs to 175 lbs — since he started taking it in October. AdvertisementAfter a roughly monthlong search, he started his second job and was able to afford Mounjaro. Are you working multiple remote jobs at the same time and willing to discuss details about your pay and schedule?
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A Cleveland Uber driver made over $109,000 in gross earnings last year but only took home $17,000. He said Uber driving has become less profitable but that he's not sure he can find a better job. AdvertisementGeorge, a full-time Uber driver in Cleveland, wants to quit his ride-hailing gig. In 2023, George made more than $109,000 in gross earnings as an Uber driver, according to documents viewed by BI. Many ride-hailing drivers, like George, are actively tracking their income and expenses to make sure driving is worth their time.
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