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Here's what may be behind the move as Bob Iger looks to solidify his legacy. Disney's head-turning decision to share three years' worth of earnings guidance is a fascinating strategic move — and may be part of a bigger play from legacy-minded CEO Bob Iger. The Mouse House pleased analysts this week with its quarterly earnings report, as operating income rose 23% while revenue advanced by 6%. AdvertisementBob-ing and weavingDisney's earnings report and presentation were littered with comparisons to two years ago, which seems deliberate — if subtle. Advertisement"I would guess Bob Iger is feeling the pressure to demonstrate that he has set the company back on the right track," Nollen said.
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Comcast's Mike Cavanagh said the company will explore ditching its cable networks. AdvertisementComcast said this week it might separate from its cable networks and marry off its streaming service. Mike Cavanagh, Comcast's president, floated the idea Thursday of spinning out cable networks like CNBC and MSNBC into a new firm while holding on to NBC. Several industry analysts said that Comcast could increase its valuation by divorcing itself from its declining cable networks, as it would help emphasize its burgeoning streaming business. "The cable networks likely have little value on their own.
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Discovery to form sports streaming service Venu, which promised to offer access to tons of live sports at less than half the cost of traditional cable bundles. Unlike ESPN+, this service will have all of ESPN's content, including Monday Night Football games and shows like "First Take." Disney is doing everything it can to make sure it's not in the same boat — hence its investments in projects like Venu and ESPN Flagship. Despite that drawback, Nollen is optimistic about ESPN Flagship. If ESPN Flagship hits those milestones, it can fully offset the losses from pay TV, which it will — ironically — be partially responsible for.
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The DOJ and the states are seeking a breakup of Google's adtech business. Separately, they said that while a separation of Google's ad server and its ad exchange would be good for competition in the adtech market, it might drive ad server costs up for publishers. Google's ad server is "a loss leader, they make all their money in AdX," the exec said, referring to Google's ad exchange that connects buyers and sellers. Global regulators have Google in their sights, tooAny unraveling of Google's ad empire would be complex. Over the pond, the European Union said last year it might look to break up Google's adtech business.
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Now, looking for a return on their content investments, Disney , Warner Bros. Disney said last week that its combined streaming services — Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+ — were profitable for the first time during its fiscal third quarter. Ahead of earnings, Disney announced it's raising streaming prices by $1 to $2 a month for Hulu, Disney+ and ESPN+. Similar to Disney, Paramount Global said last week in its quarterly earnings conference call that its streaming business, centered on flagship service Paramount+, reached profitability. Discovery said during its second-quarter earnings conference call that streaming ad revenue doubled year over year.
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AdvertisementThose moves show just how rapidly the cable TV business is unraveling. WBD's direct-to-consumer segment still loses money, and its streaming revenue actually declined 6% from last year — even though Max added 3.7 million subscribers. WBD added 3.9 million streaming subscribers abroad last quarter, thanks to its rollout across Europe ahead of the Olympics, which the company broadcasts outside the US. If that service attracts enough cord-cutters, it could help stop the bleeding in WBD's fast-declining pay TV business in a best-case scenario. Join forces with other media firmsAdvertisementAlthough WBD is struggling as the pay-TV business shrinks, the silver lining is that it's not alone.
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CNN —Football, wrestling and immersive experiences: This year, Netflix has expanded beyond its usual scripted and reality TV offerings. In May, Netflix disclosed that it has 40 million monthly active users on its new ad-supported subscription tier, a jump from 23 million in January. The deal kicks off this year with Netflix globally airing two NFL games on the holiday. But sports aren’t the only way Netflix is trying to expand its footprint. “It should help retain those customers and keep them in the Netflix ecosystem and paying for their subscriptions for longer,” he said.
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Here's what will likely be topics of discussion during Upfronts week, whether it's on stage, in the audience or in private. That dependsMedia companies just finished reporting quarterly earnings, which showed traditional TV is still lagging behind streaming and digital when it comes to ad revenue. Streaming advertising was up 22% across media companies, and now makes up 18% of total advertising. Tech companies including Snap , Roku , Google and Microsoft each saw digital advertising revenue make a comeback this past quarter. Streaming advertising revenue jumped 70%, but the overall number is much lower — just $175 million.
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WBD generated $6.2 billion of free cash flow through 2023 and likely shelled out around $1.4 billion of that for NBA games. Analysts estimate that figure would be closer to $2 billion if WBD re-ups its NBA package. WBD wants a big NBA deal, despite Wall Street's wishesSixteen months ago, Zaslav said WBD didn't "have to have" the NBA. NBA ratings have been lackluster lately, with national TV games averaging 1.6 million viewers in the last two seasons. Zaslav's latest public remarks on the NBA negotiations reflect that.
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"Netflix won the streaming wars in 2009 when they started streaming," said Tim Nollen, a media analyst at Macquarie. "I think it's a little bit ridiculous, to be honest," Bazinet said when asked if Netflix has won the streaming wars. AdvertisementHow Hollywood can beat Netflix at its own gameHollywood stalwarts can compete in streaming, Bazinet argued — provided the media industry first consolidates even further. The two biggest threats right now are Disney — which has about 220 million subscribers across Disney+, Hulu, and ESPN+ — and Amazon. Nollen said Amazon would flood the market with cheap ads and crush its competition like it did in e-commerce.
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Read previewCash-hungry entertainment studios are back in the content licensing game, sending their valuable shows like HBO's "Sex and the City" and Disney's "Grey's Anatomy" back to Netflix. Licensing has historically been a mainstay of entertainment companies, except for a brief period when many hoarded content while they built up their own streaming services. "It's the future," said Dan Cohen, the chief content licensing officer at Paramount. Netflix and other entertainment companies that sought full ownership of content as they built up their streaming services are now becoming more agnostic about it. But, for now, the major entertainment companies don't have much of a choice.
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The atmosphere at the Disney Bundle Celebrating National Streaming Day at The Row in Los Angeles on May 19, 2022. Still, the age of the cable bundle is giving way to the era of a new kind of bundle that could give both streamers and cable providers a path forward. Media executives told CNBC this month that 2024 could finally be the year that media companies get serious about the bundle. Discovery, earlier this year predicted more integration of streaming services into cable bundles. Despite the demand for a streaming bundle, top players have historically been apprehensive to make such a deal.
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And with the game streaming the day after Thanksgiving, Amazon could capture some of the holiday viewership, which broke records last year. ESPN's pivotESPN has long ruled sports programming on traditional TV. Yet even as the streaming trend picks up, sports programming is helping keep cable and traditional TV alive, for the moment. Earlier this year, data firm Nielsen reported that traditional TV made up less than half of overall TV usage in July. A FOX Sports TV camera operator during the week 5 NFL game between the Atlanta Falcons and the Carolina Panthers at Mercedes-Benz Stadium on October 11, 2020 in Atlanta, Georgia.
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Friday's early calls include an upgrade to a restaurant software stock and a big downgrade to a solar name. The bank downgraded Unity stock to neutral from outperform, also slashing its target price to $20 from $55. Analyst Doug Anmuth's updated price target of $510 could mean that there's still 17% room for the stock to go. Analyst Jonathan Block's price target of $70 signifies a 13% upside from the stock's Thursday closing price of $62.16. Koning has a price target of $18 per share, implying upside of nearly 30% over the next 12 months.
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Media analysts widely expect the league to select at least three distributors for its next media rights deal after the current setup expires in 2025. Comcast's NBCUniversal could be a frontrunner for a spot in the NBA's new media deal alongside Amazon, Nispel said. NBA players could be poised to earn sky-high paydaysThe NBA's last media deal — the $24 billion contract it struck in 2014 — was nearly triple the value of its previous pact. The pressure is now on the NBA to deliver a media deal that satisfies teams, athletes, and fans. Still, Macquarie media analyst Tim Nollen is optimistic about the size of the NBA's next media rights deal.
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Media analysts say this dispute could be the beginning of the end for the cable bundle. After a decade of steady decline, the pay TV bundle now appears to be on life support. Charter refuses to pay Disney's higher asking price for its family of networks, including ESPN, without including Disney+ and Hulu in the bundle. The cable giant also wants its customers to have a Disney-free option for a reduced price, which may also be a non-starter. Otherwise, it plans to send its pay TV customers elsewhere.
Persons: Tim Nollen, That's, Jessica Reif Ehrlich, John Hodulik, Hodulik Organizations: Disney, Media, UBS, ESPN, Hulu, Macquarie, Bank of America, Netflix, Charter Locations: imploding
When it comes to Hulu, value is in the eye of the holder. However, Comcast claims Hulu is worth double what Disney is saying, according to Bloomberg — even in a tough media environment. "It's what would a willing buyer in a robust auction pay," Roberts said of Hulu's valuation at a MoffettNathanson conference in May. Another way to value Hulu is by comparing its EV-to-subscriber ratio with that of Netflix. By buying all of Hulu, Disney can position itself for the next big trend in media, Noell said.
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After a run of acquisitions during his first tour as Disney CEO, Bob Iger is looking to shrink the company. "They are our film studios, our parks business, and streaming, all of which are inextricably linked to our brands and franchises." Verizon has reached out to Disney about partnering on a new ESPN streaming service, The Information reported. 2024 will bring some clarity to Disney's streaming business. "The streaming business with ESPN going direct to consumer can generate a lot of subscriptions and hopefully be a positive earnings contributor.
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After a run of acquisitions during his first tour as Disney CEO, Bob Iger is looking to shrink the company. He's looking to Disney's IP-driven parks, streaming, and film studios to drive growth. "They are our film studios, our parks business, and streaming, all of which are inextricably linked to our brands and franchises." 2024 will bring some clarity to Disney's streaming business. "The streaming business with ESPN going direct to consumer can generate a lot of subscriptions and hopefully be a positive earnings contributor.
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Traditional TV usage drops below 50% for first time ever
  + stars: | 2023-08-15 | by ( Lillian Rizzo | ) www.cnbc.com   time to read: +3 min
The decline of traditional TV continues, even as the prices of streaming services rise. Total traditional TV usage — comprised of broadcast and pay-TV — dropped below 50% in July for the first time ever, according to Nielsen's monthly streaming report, The Gauge. Usage among pay-TV customers fell to 29.6% of TV, while broadcast dropped to a 20% share during the month. Many consumers left the traditional TV bundle due to its steep prices. Lackluster streaming subscriber growth hasn't helped much in their bid for profitability, Macquarie noted in its report.
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But that plan carries serious risk, as it would jeopardize still-sizable cable revenue without guaranteeing that enough sports fans would support such a product. Several other analysts — including Barton Crockett of Rosenblatt Securities, who has a buy rating for Disney shares — seconded those concerns about cannibalizing cable revenue. Nollen estimated 35 million current cable customers would switch to ESPN DTC. ESPN DTC is zero incremental cost and potentially billions in incremental revenue." An ESPN streamer (in light purple) would gradually drive revenue for Disney, Wells Fargo predicts.
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Share Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailESPN is a huge issue for Disney as it reconciles ad revenue pullback , says Macquarie's Tim NollenTim Nollen of Macquarie, along with CNBC's Brian Schwartz and Julia Boorstin join 'The Exchange' to discuss why shares of Disney are trending lower today, Disney's action to buy more shares of Hulu, and Disney's battle with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
Share Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailNetflix's paid sharing plan will kickstart the advertising tier: Macquarie's Tim NollenTim Nollen, Macquarie Group senior media analyst, and CNBC's Julia Boorstin join 'Power Lunch' to discuss Netflix's advertising business, how the password crackdown would work, and how much money is to be made.
There's plenty of competition in streaming services, but Netflix and Disney are undoubtedly two of the biggest names — and both are facing a number of headwinds. However, analysts' average potential upside tells a different story: Disney gets average potential upside of 26%, according to FactSet data, while Netflix's comes in at just 3.8%. The case for Netflix For Bank of America, Netflix is a "world class brand" with a "leading global subscriber base." "I think Netflix is certainly going to have a lot of leverage on revenue growth and cost discipline. With the kind of blended businesses and the opportunities for improvement, I think Disney is a little bit better in my favor," he said.
Here's why Disney might be looking to sell its stake in Hulu
  + stars: | 2023-03-29 | by ( ) www.cnbc.com   time to read: 1 min
Share Share Article via Facebook Share Article via Twitter Share Article via LinkedIn Share Article via EmailHere's why Disney might be looking to sell its stake in HuluTim Nollen of Macquarie Capital joins 'Closing Bell Overtime' to discuss strength from the communication services sector, Disney looking to sell its stake in Hulu, and investment opportunities in the media landscape.
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