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Opinion | Where Should Agnostics Go on Sundays?
  + stars: | 2023-09-01 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +5 min
So what he’d like — well, here’s the quote:I can easily imagine a “church for the nones.” (It would need a more appealing name.) I could attend a Christian church on Sundays and teach my daughter about other beliefs the rest of the week. With all my reservations, I don’t really want to join an existing church. And I don’t think I am going to have much luck getting my fellow nones to join something I start. My sense is that the people who want what church provides are going to the existing Christian churches, even if they are skeptical of some of the beliefs.
Persons: Perry Bacon, , Jessica Grose, Nick Kristof, Bacon, certainties, Doesn’t Bacon, Hasn’t, he’s, I’ve Organizations: The Washington Post, Society for Ethical, Netflix Locations: America,
Listen to and follow ‘Matter of Opinion’Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicIt’s been 18 months since Russia invaded Ukraine. As the stalemate continues, what role should the United States play in the fight? This week on “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts discuss how the war is playing out at home and why the G.O.P. Plus, a trip back in time to a magical land of sorcerers and “Yo! MTV Raps.”(A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.)
Persons: It’s Organizations: Spotify, Times Locations: Russia, Ukraine, United States, Mexico
Opinion | The Trump Trial Date Is a Big Mistake
  + stars: | 2023-08-30 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +2 min
These choices are often defended with the suggestion that any critique is just a bad-faith attempt to let Trump or his voters off the hook. Yes, there’s always “the possibility that Mr. Trump collapses under the weight of his legal challenges,” as my colleague Nate Cohn puts it. To beat Trump in the primary, any challenger would need part of that bloc to resist the rallying impulse and swing their way instead. There may be Republican voters who regard these prosecutions as theater designed to keep Trump from the nomination and therefore expect the legal cases to fall apart when his lawyers make their defense. electorate said they wouldn’t vote for Trump if he were convicted of a felony, compared with 35 percent (that Trumpian core again) who said they would, and that more than half said they wouldn’t support him in the fall campaign if he were imprisoned.
Persons: Trump, there’s, , Nate Cohn, he’s, Bill Clinton Organizations: G.O.P, Trump, Republican, Reuters
But in advance of this debate, I did go back and watch the 2015 Republican debate. michelle cottleOK. I’m going to jump in here with the message may be great, but the messenger was absolutely atrocious. But I thought it was really, really interesting. carlos lozadaNo, no, no, but no, here’s what — no, I mean, I’m not inclined to. And then, I’m going to put the interests of Americans first, which is just an America first riff.
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Ross Douthat: Of all the varied and vigorous clashes between Mike Pence and Vivek Ramaswamy, the moment when Ramaswamy started talking about despair and doom and declining mental health in America and Pence shot back with the claim that actually there’s nothing wrong with the American people, just with our failed government and leaders, offered an especially pellucid distillation of the big divide between pre-Trump and post-Trump conservatism. It’s a divide that’s both ideological and generational, pitting the old G.O.P. defaults (which are clearly still Pence’s defaults) of patriotic boosterism against a growing sense on the right that the American exceptionalism conservatives once defended has decayed or dissolved — and that something more radical than a message of small government and stewardship is required to bring it back.
Persons: Ross Douthat, Mike Pence, Vivek Ramaswamy, Ramaswamy, Pence Organizations: Trump Locations: America
Opinion | Winners and Losers of the First Republican Debate
  + stars: | 2023-08-24 | by ( ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +22 min
Welcome to Opinion’s commentary for the first Republican presidential primary candidate debate, held in Milwaukee on Wednesday night. Gail Collins: She seemed generally reasonable and wow, when the debate turned to education and she actually brought up reading. If there’s any life left in the old G.O.P., Haley gave it hope. Perhaps more important, in taking on the glib and callow Ramaswamy on Ukraine, she showed anger and dominance, essential qualities in a Republican debate. Any debate that doesn’t feature Chris Christie at the front of the highlight reel is a bad night for Christie.
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Opinion | Appeasing Donald Trump Won’t Work
  + stars: | 2023-08-20 | by ( David French | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +3 min
There was never any way to remove Trump from American politics through the Democratic Party alone. Rather than remove Trump from American politics by convicting him in the Senate after his second impeachment, Republicans punted their responsibilities to the American legal system. (In his most recent newsletter, my colleague Ross Douthat makes a powerful case that only politics can solve the problem of Donald Trump.) First, there is the simple political fear of losing a House or Senate seat. In polarized, gerrymandered America, all too many Republican politicians face political risk only from their right, and that “right” appears to be overwhelmingly populated by Trumpists.
Persons: Jan, convicting, Mitch McConnell, acquit Trump, , Trump, Ross Douthat, Donald Trump, ” Trump, podcaster Ben Shapiro, Barack Obama Organizations: Republicans, Trump, Democratic Party, American Locations: America
Opinion | When the Law Is Not a Trump Card
  + stars: | 2023-08-18 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +3 min
Meanwhile, Segall argues against the authors’ claim that the amendment’s provisions are “self-executing,” that they can be applied to Trump or any other supposed insurrectionist immediately. This is acknowledged by Baude and Paulsen, to be sure, who argue at length that Chase was wrong. It should not happen, it would not work if it did happen, John Roberts and four more justices would not uphold it, and it would license political chaos to no good purpose whatsoever. And if the legal theorist’s response is that this isn’t the “best” way to deal with Trump, it’s just the way that the Constitution requires, then so much the worse for their theory of the Constitution. There is an irony here, which is that a similar kind of legal mentality influenced Trump’s campaign to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
Persons: Segall, Salmon Chase, Baude, Paulsen, Chase, Donald Trump, Salmon, , … I’m, John Roberts, it’s, John Eastman’s, Mike Pence, interpose, Joe Biden’s, Pence Organizations: Trump, Eastman Locations: United States
Why Britain Needs to Build Again - The New York Times
  + stars: | 2023-08-12 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +2 min
There’ll be books; it will linger onIn galleries; but all that remainsFor us will be concrete and tyres. Larkin wrote these words in 1972. On the basis of a trip through England and Scotland in summer 2023 I can report that his fears were premature. British conservatism, of which Larkin was an eccentric representative, has always had a stronger conservationist streak than its American cousin. The Conservative Party, in power for most of this period, is often blamed for backing post-financial crisis austerity and lurching into Brexit.
Persons: ” Philip Larkin, , , There’ll, Larkin Organizations: Health Service, Conservative Party Locations: England, Scotland, Europe, United States, Britain, Italy, Brexit
Opinion | Does God Control History?
  + stars: | 2023-08-11 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +2 min
Instead, I managed to entangle myself in an argument about a different totalitarianism-related question: whether the destruction of Hitler’s Germany was a true and righteous judgment of Almighty God. The style of far-right thought involved in both stories takes Western decadence as a given, while arguing that Christianity is a weak vessel for any kind of cultural revival. Its big idea is that a conservatism that looks to classical and pagan sources, and embraces some kind of racial identitarianism could be more, well, vital in its engagement with the times. The decay and decadence of Western Christianity makes the return of right-wing Nietzscheanism inevitable. But Christians can say with some warrant that God’s judgment on that project is evident already.
Persons: , Graeme Wood’s, , Richard Hanania, Jordan Peterson, I’ve, Hanania Organizations: Twitter Locations: Germany
Listen to and follow ‘Matter of Opinion’Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicDonald Trump was impeached twice. He has been indicted three times. And yet he’s the clear Republican front-runner for 2024. Today on “Matter of Opinion,” Michelle Cottle, Ross Douthat and Carlos Lozada explore how Trump has created a winning political strategy and what his potential nomination could mean for Joe Biden, the Republican Party and the future of the country. (A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.)
Persons: Amazon Music Donald Trump, ” Michelle Cottle, Ross Douthat, Carlos Lozada, Trump, Joe Biden Organizations: Spotify, Amazon Music, Republican Party, Times
Opinion | Why Barbie and Ken Need Each Other
  + stars: | 2023-08-09 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +1 min
Between the middle of the 1970s and the late 2010s, in their responses to the General Social Survey, American women reported themselves to be steadily unhappier. They started out slightly unhappier than women and then made gains in the Reagan and Clinton years, while female happiness declined. But then male unhappiness plunged between the 9/11 era and Barack Obama’s re-election in 2012, before stabilizing a bit thereafter. By the pre-Covid period, the sexes were close to parity — sharing more reported unhappiness than either had been experiencing 30 or 40 years before. In 1970, just 9 percent of people ages 25 to 50 had never tied the knot; in 2018, it was 35 percent.
Persons: Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Barack Obama’s, Sam Peltzman Organizations: General Social Survey, Trump, University of Chicago
Opinion | The Normal Paths to Beating Trump Are Closing
  + stars: | 2023-08-05 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +1 min
In the quest to escape Donald Trump’s dominance of American politics, there have been two camps: normalizers and abnormalizers. The first group takes its cues from an argument made in these pages by the Italian-born economist Luigi Zingales just after Trump’s 2016 election. The counterargument has been that you can’t just give certain forms of abnormality a pass; otherwise, you end up tolerating not just demagogy but also lawbreaking, corruption and authoritarianism. The more subtle version of the argument insists that normalizing a demagogue is also ultimately a political mistake as well as a moral one and that you can’t make the full case against a figure like Trump if you try to leave his character and corruption out of it. Trump won in 2016 by exploiting the weak points in this abnormalizing strategy, as both his Republican primary opponents and then Hillary Clinton failed to defeat him with condemnation and quarantines, instead of reckoning with his populism’s substantive appeal.
Persons: Donald Trump’s, Luigi Zingales, Silvio Berlusconi, Zingales, Berlusconi’s, , , Trump, Hillary Clinton Organizations: Republican Locations: Italian
Opinion | ‘Oppenheimer’ and the Shadow of Stalin
  + stars: | 2023-08-04 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +3 min
So the point of reading McMeekin’s book is to give early Cold War anti-communism its due. Just this, “Stalin’s War” suggests: They saw Stalin clearly. Nor was Stalin any kind of naïve, unsuspecting victim of Hitler’s Barbarossa onslaught, as some historical clichés would have it. And these Soviet machinations benefited from the same mixture of philo-communism among New Deal liberals and outright Soviet espionage that shaped Oppenheimer’s milieu. As I said, McMeekin’s account is polemical, written as a corrective to other histories and open to counterarguments in turn.
Persons: Stalin, , Hitler, McMeekin, Hitler’s Barbarossa, Franklin Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, It’s Organizations: Soviet, New Deal, Soviet Union Locations: Nazi Germany, Tokyo, Japan, United States, Eastern Europe, East Asia, Baltic States, America, Soviet
Listen to and follow ‘Matter of Opinion’Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicElite colleges are facing a reckoning over their admissions practices. But is there a case for upholding policies that give preferential treatment to some students? On this episode of “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts examine whether it really matters if you go to Harvard and what the upside could be of favoring family connections. (A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.)
Organizations: Spotify, Music Elite, Harvard, Times
Opinion | From Jacobites to Populists
  + stars: | 2023-08-02 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +3 min
It’s not that today’s populists (a few intellectuals aside) favor the restoration of an absolute or Catholic monarchy. Rather, like the original Jacobites, they represent a hodgepodge of somewhat disparate causes, unified mostly by their oppositional and outsider status, their distance from and defiance of the Whiggish metropole. As Frank McLynn points out in his history of the Jacobites, whatever specific designs the Stuarts had in mind, their movement always included a variety of competing ideological and religious tendencies. There were English Jacobites who wanted to see the Stuarts enthroned over all the British Isles. There were also plenty of opportunists, familiar from the grifter politics of our own day — smugglers and privateers seeking relief from a centralizing British state, bankrupt gentry seeking relief for their accumulated debts.
Persons: Donald Trump’s, Bonnie Prince Charlie, Trump, Frank McLynn Organizations: European Union, London, Whig, Jacobite, Jacobites, Scottish Locations: England, United Kingdom, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Europe, Ulster, United States, Scottish, British, London
Opinion | With DeSantis Reeling, What About Tim Scott?
  + stars: | 2023-07-29 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +2 min
Unless that battle results in a DeSantis collapse and a chance for someone else to go up against the front-runner. After all, why should DeSantis be the only non-Trump hope just because he seemed potent early on? Say this for Scott: He has an obvious asset that DeSantis is missing, a fundamental good cheer that Americans favor in their presidents. The reason that DeSantis seemed like the best hope against Trump was a record and persona that seemed to meet Republican voters where they are. On certain issues, Covid policy especially, he could claim to represent the views of Trump’s supporters better than Trump himself.
Persons: Tim Scott, Scott, Joe, George W, Trump, Trump’s Organizations: Trump, Republican, Disney Locations: African American
Opinion | The Case for Tourism
  + stars: | 2023-07-28 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +3 min
Agnes Callard, a University of Chicago philosopher, infuriated various portions of the internet in June with an essay making the case against travel. Though really it was the case against tourism, since Callard exempted many forms of travel — for work or study, for personal or political reasons or charitable service — from her critique. The traveler departs confident that she will come back with the same basic interests, political beliefs and living arrangements. So I refrained from any comment on her thesis, assuming — like every other self-deluded tourist — that I would return more enlightened than before. But casting my mind back to that distant prior self, I dimly remember having two reactions to Callard’s essay.
Persons: Agnes Callard, Walker Percy, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Chesterton, Callard, Mona Lisa, , Percy Organizations: University of Chicago, Scottish Locations: G.K, France, Britain, Netherlands
Listen to and follow ‘Matter of Opinion’Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicChristopher Nolan’s blockbuster hit “Oppenheimer” tells the story of the father of the atomic bomb and the invention he hoped would end all wars. (Spoiler alert: It did not.) On “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts discuss how history should view J. Robert Oppenheimer — naïve martyr or crybaby? — and whether we have more to fear from nuclear weapons in the age of artificial intelligence. (A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.)
Persons: Christopher Nolan’s, “ Oppenheimer ”, J, Robert Oppenheimer — Organizations: Spotify, Amazon, Times
Opinion | The Stagnation of Ron DeSantis
  + stars: | 2023-07-22 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +2 min
Pundits have to hope so, since otherwise our advice-giving beat becomes a bit irrelevant. For Ron DeSantis, currently engaged in a campaign reset after months of stagnant polling, there’s no way to sell these case studies to his restive donors. And it’s easy enough to list things that DeSantis could be doing differently. But any benefit from these shifts is likely to be incremental rather than dramatic. Meanwhile, the reset that’s so often urged on DeSantis — the idea that he needs to go hard after Trump’s unfitness for high office — is a theory supported by exactly zero polling evidence.
Persons: John Kerry, John McCain, Joe Biden, Ron DeSantis, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz’s, DeSantis, unfitness
Here are the meanings of the least-found words that were used in (mostly) recent Times articles. Works by Agatha Christie, Robert Louis Stevenson and P. G. Wodehouse all featured tontine members plotting to kill one another in hope of a big payoff. — Dog Ziggity: New Jersey’s Own Hot Dogs (Sept. 24, 2013)And a bonus: arrant — total or extreme:It constitutes a dismissal of eager and innocent articulateness. And as such, it is an arrant and thoughtless injustice that must be stopped. — Opinion: A Language Test That Stigmatizes Black Children (Oct. 7, 2022)The list of the week’s easiest words:
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Listen to and follow ‘Matter of Opinion’Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThe New York Times Audio app includes podcasts, narrated articles from the newsroom and other publishers, as well as exclusive new shows — including this one — which we’re making available to readers for a limited time. Download the audio app here. On this week’s “Matter of Opinion,” Michelle, Ross, Carlos and Lydia offer their recommendations for your summer reading and lay out what they’re excited to dive into themselves. Plus, listener book picks. (A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.)
Persons: ” Michelle, Ross, Carlos, Lydia Organizations: Spotify, New York Times, Times
The New York Times Audio app includes podcasts, narrated articles from the newsroom and other publishers, as well as exclusive new shows — including this one — which we’re making available to readers for a limited time. Download the audio app here. In just one week, more than 100 million people have signed up for Meta’s new Threads app. On “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts ask why so many people are joining, given how much we love to hate on social media, and whether “social” media is even social anymore. (A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.)
Organizations: New York Times, Times
lydia polgreenI’m Lydia Polgreen, and this is “Matter of Opinion.” Today, we’re going to do something a little bit different. And the great sort of brilliant twist of the show is at the end, the winner is chosen by the people that the contestants have voted off. Like, that just seems really, really American. I don’t think we need to go that far, but she is the best version of America, like America as it fancies itself to be. And if they happen to come out while I’m outside, I’m like, you!
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John Roberts, Republican Statesman - The New York Times
  + stars: | 2023-07-01 | by ( Ross Douthat | ) www.nytimes.com   time to read: +1 min
The unusual powers of the American Supreme Court have unusual effects on all its members, but especially on whichever justices hold the balance of power: Their role fits especially uneasily with the letter of the Constitution and modern democratic norms, evoking more ancient forms or concepts — the Roman censor, the Greek archon, Plato’s philosopher-king. Three figures have occupied and sometimes shared this role over the last two generations, and each has brought a different mind-set to the work. Sandra Day O’Connor, drawing on her background as an elected official, often seemed to regard herself a canny intuiter of the American middle ground, constantly seeking political balances and settlements. Then Anthony Kennedy, who shared the role with O’Connor and stood alone after her retirement, seemed to favor the philosopher-king model, issuing sweeping judgments based on his distinctive libertarianism, often written in the style of a papal bull.
Persons: Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy, O’Connor Organizations: American Supreme Locations: American
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